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El Guapo Vandal
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posted December 13, 2001 23:29
Norm... my point about the toughness is this... being a soccer player, i got ribbed by gridiron players in high school for playing a "girls" sport, its not "tough", and the like. and im kinda saying, how can football be "tough" if you wear rediculous amounts of unecessary padding (you DO need pads in hockey. ive never disputed that. i play hockey too, btw. trust me. you NEED pads) and in the words of my friend who moved here from New Zealand... "i dont get your "football"... it just looks like they just run 3 yards and fall down..."and to say rugby is chaos is just out of it. have you ever watched a rugby match? there are positions (notice the # a player is wearing, they corrolate to his position and role of the player... Number Position 1 Prop 2 Hooker 3 Prop 4 Lock (2nd Row) 5 Lock (2nd Row) 6 Flanker (Wing Forward) 7 Flanker (Wing Forward) 8 8th Man 9 Scrum-Half 10 Fly-Half 11 Weak Side Wing 12 Inside Center 13 Outside Center 14 Strong Side Wing 15 Fullback there can be small variations yes, but those are the positions. and oh yeah theyre offensive AND defensive too. so yes. rugby has positions. it has a lot of strategy too, especially in regard to gaining territory on the pitch. of course, im sure you say soccer is caos with limited strategy as well.....
quote: Rugby spread across the globe and competition emerged between countries. In the United States, the game emerged primarily on the West Coast. The lack of precise rules, ambiguities in the game and complexity of the sport drew a lot of United States players away from the game and major changes were invoked. In 1880 the scrum was replaced by a line of scrimmage, drawing emphasis from the free-running characteristic of the game. The game continued to play with rugby rules until 1905 where the publication of photographs of a harsh game between Sarthmore and Pennsylvania created a stir. President Theodore Roosevelt insisted on reform of the game to lower the brutality with threat of abolishing the game by edict. In 1906 the forward pass was introduced to the United States game. The rules of rugby died and the game of American football was born.
theres a little bit of rugby/american football history for you. if thats not a bastardising of a sport, then i dont know what is... (by the way, of course im talking about rugby union. league is a worthless waste of time.)
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Just Kenny
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posted December 14, 2001 00:18
perhaps my opinion is shaped by my own personal experience...my brother was on the football team, and so i knew everyone on the team. a bunch of fuckin assholes. not everyone was, my brother was not one of the asshole jocks, and there were a few others, but the majority consisted of arrogant, narcissistic, meathead assholes who spent their time lifting weights, partying, and talking about how they fucked bitches and dropped em. I was on the wrestling team. every person on the team who also played football knew that football was nothing compared to wrestling, they just like the game. i am not saying that everyone in sports is a meathead, but in my experience, the majority are. and i dislike these people for various reasons. my previous post was definitely the reulst of a bitter mood (you may have noticed when i strayed from the topic of football and gave my opinion of high school in general). Football is fun, its a game. And it is indeed a test of human potential, but too many people consider soccer a pussy sport and wrestling a gay sport when they feel that football is a man's game. these people are fuckin fools. whether you enjoy one more than the other is certainly your own taste, i would rather watch american football than soccer, but i dont think those men are gods. In fact, i dont think any of these people should be put on pedestals... now Jon Bon Jovi, on the other hand...
-------------------- Truly, Kenny
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***norm
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posted December 14, 2001 07:12
Vandal, again I stress that regardless of the roots of a sport, (I knew the history) it is not grounds to call is a bastardization. Afterall, is Rock n' Roll a bastardization of classical music? Punk a bastardization of the blues? I guess you could say it, based upon the history, buti t wouldn't be entirely correct.As for soccer/world football. I played the game. (well i was a goal keeper, you be the judge as to whether I actually played. According to your rules of sport I guess I just stood there. No endurance=no participation I guess) I just don't like to watch it. Without fully understanding rugby, it is chaos. Without understanding american football it is running three yards and falling down. Without understanding soccer it is a bunch of grown men chasing and kicking a ball. It's all perspective... As for hockey... I love the game. When I played, I wore a full face shield until I could wear just a half. Then I got sticked in the face and went back to the full face. Fuck breathing I like my teeth. YOU DO NEED PADS IN HOCKEY.
-------------------- •Taking money from religious people is like beating retards at checkers. • Alcoholics Anonymous is to Jesus Freaks what still water is to mosquitos •* I understand war for some reasons. Land, money, a girl, that can be understood. Now war over god, that's a whole different issue. There is no way I can justify a war over who has a better invisible friend.
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